In any event, as interesting as all these items are, I am more interested in a couple of his other statements, namely (and I will paraphrase) -
- "We need to rise up in November and cut their heads off."
- "If Obama gets re-elected, a year from now I'll be either dead or in jail."
So, of course, there were many responses to this. A Romney campaign spokeswoman said that all discourse in the election cycle should be "civil" (you KNOW we dig Civility here at IBL), but I don't think she mentioned Nugent by name (personally, I think it would have been nice if Romney had said something - if he did and I missed it please let me know). Democrats will attempt to link Ted to Romney and try and raise money off these statements. The Secret Service will pay a courtesy call to Nugent because, you know, what exactly did he mean by that? (The Man himself issued a statement saying he supports the Secret Service and realizes they have a job to do and will gladly meet with them.)
With regard to his first quote, the imagery is certainly violent, no doubt, but I have to believe it was more "metaphorical" than anything else - come out in November and vote against Obama. That's just my take on it. The second one is a little more troubling and here's where I want to briefly digress - during the last election cycle, Ted got on stage one evening (or perhaps more than one evening, I don't know), and made violent statements against Obama, Mrs. Clinton, and Mrs. Pelosi. In the case of Obama, the quote was along the lines of "Hey Obama, suck on my machine gun." And Ted is, in fact, brandishing something that LOOKS like a gun as he says this, and I have no reason to think it's NOT a gun (and I'm not going to link to this video but it's easy enough to track down on YouTube should you need to see it).
"Hey Obama, suck on my machine gun."
"If Obama gets re-elected, a year from now I'll be either dead or in jail." (Presumably this does not mean a) suicide because of the depression or b) imprisonment for civil disobedience - neither really fits into his so-called "world view".)
The political discourse of Ted Nugent, someone so important that certain candidates for political office would seek out his endorsement. In fact, Ted says that, in March, Romney did just this; the Romney camp says they didn't. But it hardly matters if they asked for it or not. These quotes are a high drive to deep left field beyond "being civil". I mean, you know, being civil is not calling somebody "stupid" or "fat". This is violent, hateful speech pure and simple, and has no place in our democratic process. I mean, Good God - there are liberals who think Bush and Cheney are war criminals. There are liberals who think the OTHER four justices (and sometimes Kennedy) are ignoring the Constitution (and this typically translates into fundraising pitches along the lines of "If you don't want Romney appointing Supreme Court justices, send us money today.") In other words, Ted (and all the hateful speakers of any political stripe) -
RIGHT, GOT IT. A BUNCH OF US DISAGREE ON A BUNCH OF SHIT.
But I would like to believe that we, as Americans, all Americans, could agree on a few things - that it's important to look at issues as other people might (yes, including those utterly and completely different than us), it provides perspective and, potentially, understanding (though we still might wind up in disagreement at the end of the day, sure); that it's important to be informed, and not by just once source: there are all kinds of informational outlets available to us and, really, no excuse to be passing along information as gospel when a) we just don't know for sure that it is and b) it can be easily disproved in two mouse clicks or with an encyclopedia; that we need to first recognize that we are doing it and, then, get over ourselves when we start to think we know what is right for anybody/everybody else.
And, of course, to avoid hateful, violent speech against our fellow citizens - Jesus, against just about anybody, I should think (hypocritically/humanly leaving myself some wiggle room with that "just about", yes). For those of us who care about this country, and try to engage with others in a thoughtful, compassionate manner (admittedly not always getting it right), this kind of thing is beyond sad, and so very unhelpful.
Everybody in, nobody out.
IBL:mm
When I saw this reported on democracynow.org I had no idea Mr. Nugent was wacko. I really loved the Amboy Dukes album: Migration. For the lengthy title track and "I'm Not A Juvenile Delinquent/Good Natured Emma" (though I never cared for any of his other work). Oh well.
ReplyDeleteCivility, tolerance and visiting the other perspective is the purview of liberals. Stiff ideology and wrath-of-god righteous indignation is the conservative style, particularly since Bush folded in the evangelicals.
But the corporatocracy promotes these incidents to maintain divisiveness and distract from the real problems affecting the people, the planet and ignorance of peak oil.
We've reached the stage where the status quo is so entrenched, the illusions so pervasive and the pathology of pushing our problems out into the future so insurmountable, that social, political and economic catastrophe will certainly ensue in the next 10 -15 years.
With these beliefs it's hard for me to get too rattled about anything having to do with talk.
The 60's couldn't change anything long term. Vietnam couldn't change anything long term. I find myself withdrawing from the dialog. Dreams of withdrawing from 1st world society, living closer to food, water and not owning a car.
So I guess I must be a wacko survivalist. Just not a gun toting one.
Ref: Griftopia by Matt Taibbi; With Liberty and Justice for Some by Glenn Greenwald; The Crash Course by Chris Martenson; The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein; The Culture of Make Believe by Derrick Jensen